Kenneth F. Goldstein commented in the original album's booklet:. The propriety of the inclusion of Georgie in this recorded series of Child ballads is largely dependent upon the acceptance or rejection Georgie Collins - Various - Noordhollands Folk-Festival various claims of prior existence of several different ballad strains.
The ballads in question are a traditional Scottish ballad, the earliest known version dating from the end of the 18 th century, and two English broadsides, both of which date from the 17 th century. Child and most later scholars believed that the Scottish ballad must have existed prior to the broadsides and that the broadside scriveners borrowed from the Scottish ballad. Ebsworth, however, was of the opinion that the broadsides were the earlier form, and that the Scottish ballad was an adaption from these.
Most texts collected since Child including the version sung here by A. Lloyd are obviously derived from 19 th century broadside printings of the early English broadsides in question. Indeed, aside from some few texts from Scotland, all of the many recently reported texts are at least partly derived from the English broadsides. The text of this version sung by A.
Lloyd wrote in the album's sleeve notes:. As with many of our best ballads, this one is familiar both in England and in Scotland. In the latter, the main character usually appears as a nobleman sometimes identified as George Gordon, a sixteenth century Earl of Huntly, whereas in England he is usually a common outlaw thought by some to be George Stoole, a Northumbrian robber executed in In fact, there Georgie Collins - Various - Noordhollands Folk-Festival not good grounds for presuming that this is a historical ballad at all; it may well be simply a romantic fiction that was already delighting singers and audiences well before the day of the robber Stoole or the dissident Earl of Huntly.
Perhaps the story really Luv - Lots Of Luv to the period when the Middle Ages were drawing to a close and the greenwoods were full of outlaws, some high-born, but mostly otherwise, all of them on the run from oppressive feudal authority. Peter Georgie Collins - Various - Noordhollands Folk-Festival commented in the Collector EP's sleeve notes:. Those who have tried to unravel the historical background of such ballads as Mellow Sky - David Ramaszeder - Mushroom EP Queen's Four Maries will appreciate how the ballad-makers through the years have changed the names and places to fit the various popular figures who end in the criminal courts and below the gallows tree.
Here is another Bob Dylan - Good As I Been To You ballad which, according to one broadside, refers to Lady Grey pleading for George of Oxford. As indicated by many English folk-songs, poachers would be transported to Van Diemen's Land, but for his crime Geordie is condemned to death:.
Now Geordie robbed no store-houses He never murdered any He only shot a King's white deer All for to feed his family. Harry Cox sang this song as Georgie. Geordie was also recorded by Julie Felix in for her album Changes. It was the album's only track where she was accompanied by Martin Carthy and Dave Swarbrick and it was included in on the Topic anthology The Acoustic Folkbox. Peter Bellamy learned Georgie from the singing of Harry Cox and sang it unaccompanied in on his Georgie Collins - Various - Noordhollands Folk-Festival album, Mainly Norfolk.
He commented in the album's notes:. Georgie is of course Geordie with almost everyone except Harry Cox. The story of the condemned poacher is one of the most common in folk song, and Harry's tune to my mind one of the most beautiful. This recording was included in on The Carthy Chronicles. He then Syar - Death Before Dishonour Geordie for his album Crown of Horn ; this version was also included in on Rigs of the Time.
A live version recorded in June was released on 6. Folkfestival auf der Lenzburg. Martin Carthy commented in his album's sleeve notes:. The motive was obviously political and in the end a fine was exacted and he was freed. A later song called The Life and Death of George of Oxfordwhile being superficially a copy of the Scots one, at least in part, also seems to me to be an attempt to tart up and bring up to date something else.
This track was also included in on Tabor's Topic anthology Georgie Collins - Various - Noordhollands Folk-Festival . The liner notes commented:. It was customary for the judge to look over his left shoulder when passing the death sentence the left—Latin sinister—being associated with evil which explains the reference in verse six. He also sang it live at Ruskin Mill in December He commented in the first record's sleeve notes:. Hamish Henderson, poet, songwriter, collector, doyen of the School of Scottish Studies, champion of humanity in general and imagination in particular, wrote in the '60s that the folk revival depended for its continued existence on its capacity to throw up fresh thinkers.
At the risk of having an immediate degree conferred on me from the university of the bleedin' obvious, I'll say that doesn't apply simply to folkies. A pretty good illustration of the way the craft of songwriting has broadened as ordinary people write about extra-ordinary events is the Bee Gees' song New York Mine Disaster, which, whether or not it refers to an actual event, is a great piece of collective Georgie Collins - Various - Noordhollands Folk-Festival . Similar forces are at work among Suzete - Guarda De Ferro - RAC N Oi! many gypsy singers and musicians recorded by Mike Yates in the past twenty or thirty years.
Georgie is a song that I have known for forty years, but I was taken completely unawares when I heard it sung by Levi Smith in the '70s, and it's the basis of what I sing hear. The experience was similar to hearing the Yarmouth fisherman Sam Larner in the 's, which confronted everything I had thought made a musical sense, and changed it.
He noted:. The subject matter of these songs shows some common themes, crime, punishment, religion, love and loss. Georgie combines all the elements in one song, and a The End - Confuse - Confuse old song it is. The character, who is portrayed here as a somewhat loosemouthed member of the very upper class, is based on George Gordon, the 4 th Earl of Huntly, who was imprisoned in for failing to be tough enough in his treatment of a Highland robber.
He was actually later released, his lands restored, and was fined only! This version comes from a field recording of Sam Russell of Marion, Virginia.
He commented in his liner notes:. I first heard this beautiful version of Georgie sung by Pete Timmins, a very good singer and guitarist who used to sing in the folk clubs around Bradford in the 's. He hold me he had found it in Songs of the Midlandsedited by Roy Georgie Collins - Various - Noordhollands Folk-Festivalso I got the book and learnt the song.
Jim Causes sang Georgie in on his album of songs from Devon, Dumnonia. He commented:. It strongly resembles the tune of Searching for Lambsalso from Somerset. This song is well documented throughout Britain and has managed to live on for centuries despite such a loose narrative. It almost certainly pre-dates the 17 th century. His blog gives details of the several sources he assembled his version from.
They noted:. The image of the woman crying out on London Bridge in the mist of an early morning is so poignant, and upon putting together this version we also found ourselves thinking about what it would be like to stand up and protest as the sole woman in a courtroom full of men.
This has been in my repertoire for a few years now and was the first song I ever learnt from a book, specifically Folk Georgie Collins - Various - Noordhollands Folk-Festival Collected in Cambridgeshirecompiled by Mary Humphreys. Alasdair Roberts noted:. He stole sixteen of the King's royal deer And he Work It Out - Shalamar - A Night To Remember them in Bohenny.
But when she rode down and in the king's hall There were lords and ladies plenty Down on her bended knee she fall And she begged for the life of her Geordie.
When first she looked the letter on She was both red and rosy She had not read a word but two When she grew pale as the lily. Then she has mounted her good grey steed Her men they all went with her And she did neither eat nor drink Till Edinburgh town did see her.
And first appeared the fatal block And then the axe to head him And Geordie coming down the stair With bands of iron upon him. Though he was chained in fetters strong Of iron and steel so heavy O not a one in all the court Was so fine a man as Geordie.
The Gordons came and the Gordons ran And they were stark and steady And aye the word among them all Was Gordons keep you ready. Some gave her marks, some gave her crowns Some gave her dollars many She's counted out five thousand pounds And she's gotten again her dearie. Now Geordie robbed no store-houses, He never murdered any.
He only shot a King's white deer All for to feed his fam'ly. There's six pretty babes I've born to you And the seventh lies in my body, But freely would I part with them To spare the life of Geordie. Then Geordie he walked around the court And said farewell to many, But the leaving of his own true love That grieved him worst of any. Let Geordie hang in golden chains, His crimes they were not many, He only shot a king's white deer All for to feed his fam'ly.
Who can go ten mile in one Georgie Collins - Various - Noordhollands Folk-Festival With an errand for a lady? And when she had come to the king's castle door The prisoners aye stood many, And they all stood with their hats in their hands Excepting her bonny bonny Georgie.
But he stole sixteen of the king's fat deers Which grieved me most of any. I would freely part Georgie Collins - Various - Noordhollands Folk-Festival them everyone For to save the life of me Georgie Collins - Various - Noordhollands Folk-Festival . And the judge he looked over his left shoulder.
And on his grave these words will be wrote: Here lies the heart of a lady. Once I had such a good little boy A pretty boy quick as any He would run five miles in one half an hour A letter to pardon my Georgie. For what has Georgie done on Shooter's Hill Was it stealing or murder of any Oh he stole sixteen of the lord judge's deer And we sold them down under the valley.
Oh saddle em up cries my lily-white breast Oh saddle me up cries my pony With bright guns in his hand and a sword at his Baukelien - Pé & Rinus* - Pé & Rinus In Martiniploazoa!
(DVD) Would you spare me the life of my Georgie. And Georgie's fathered six babes loved There's a seventh one into my body But it's with it part with all I have got If you'll spare me the life of my Georgie.
And George shall be hanged in the frames of gold For the frames of gold you won't find many But it's with it part with all I have got If you'll spare me the life of my Georgie. Wish you was stalled all in the grove All in the grove standing ready With bright guns in your hand and a sword at your side I'd fight you for the life of my Georgie.
Traditional Sound Discogr. A bit of non-musical advertisement for very talented students of my department. Goldstein commented in the original album's booklet: The propriety of the inclusion of Georgie in this recorded series of Child ballads is largely dependent upon the acceptance or rejection of various claims of prior existence of several different ballad strains.
Lloyd wrote in the album's sleeve notes: As with many of our best ballads, this one is familiar both in England and in Scotland. Peter Kennedy commented in the Collector EP's sleeve notes: Those who have tried to unravel the historical background of such ballads as The Queen's Four Maries will appreciate how the ballad-makers through the years have changed the names and places to fit the various popular figures who end in the criminal courts and below the gallows tree.
As indicated by many English folk-songs, poachers would be transported to Van Diemen's Land, but for his crime Geordie is condemned to death: Now Geordie robbed no store-houses He never murdered any He only shot a Georgie Collins - Various - Noordhollands Folk-Festival white deer All for to feed his family.
He commented in the album's notes: Georgie is of course Geordie with almost everyone except Harry Cox. He commented in the first record's sleeve notes: Hamish Henderson, poet, songwriter, collector, doyen of the School of Scottish Studies, champion of humanity in general and imagination in particular, wrote in the '60s that the folk revival depended for its continued existence on its capacity to throw up fresh thinkers.
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